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PostSubject: why guns should be allowed to be carried.   Thu 09 Apr 2009, 2:52 pm

This guy is my hero


No charges in north Houston freeway gunshot exchange
By DALE LEZON Copyright 2009 Houston Chronicle
April 9, 2009, 11:40AM
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No charges have been filed so far in a fatal shooting earlier this week on Interstate 45.

Houston police said a man killed one man and wounded two others after they fired at him while driving in the 9400 block of North Freeway about 12:20 a.m. Wednesday.

Officers were called to a gas station in the 7400 block of North Shepherd because three males had been shot. Investigators determined that the men had been shot at the freeway and drove to the Shell station.

According to police, they were driving a white Pontiac Grand Prix when they fired gunshots at the driver of a truck. Then they exited the freeway at West Gulf Bank.

The truck driver stopped on the West Gulf Bank overpass and got a rifle from his back seat for protection, police said. As he looked over the side of the freeway to see the license plate of the Pontiac, he saw the car's driver's side window open and feared the suspects would shoot at him again.

He fired several shots at the Pontiac, hitting the passenger who was sitting in the front seat and another man who was in the back seat.

The front-seat passenger, 17, was taken to Memorial Hermann Northwest Hospital, where he later was pronounced dead.

The Ponitac's driver, who was cut in the face by flying glass and shrapnel, and rear seat passenger were treated at the hospital. Their conditions are not immediately known.

A 19-year-old man who was passenger in the car ran away, but was later found and questioned.

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PostSubject: Re: why guns should be allowed to be carried.   Thu 09 Apr 2009, 3:09 pm

Now that's justice.

An eye for an eye.


Might stop criminals from using thier guns if that happened more often.
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PostSubject: Re: why guns should be allowed to be carried.   Thu 09 Apr 2009, 4:24 pm

did anyone catch the fact that he shot long range (sort of)??

he had perfect vantage point for the shot. he was on the overpass and they were trying to run from a rifle.. HA!

hey man, nice shot.
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PostSubject: Re: why guns should be allowed to be carried.   Thu 09 Apr 2009, 4:33 pm

JK-fredd0 wrote:
did anyone catch the fact that he shot long range (sort of)??

he had perfect vantage point for the shot. he was on the overpass and they were trying to run from a rifle.. HA!

hey man, nice shot.

Yeah, I caught that.

I applaud the guy.

But you know damn well he's going to end up in criminal and civil court for it Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: why guns should be allowed to be carried.   Thu 09 Apr 2009, 4:39 pm

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JK-fredd0 wrote:
did anyone catch the fact that he shot long range (sort of)??

he had perfect vantage point for the shot. he was on the overpass and they were trying to run from a rifle.. HA!

hey man, nice shot.

Yeah, I caught that.

I applaud the guy.

But you know damn well he's going to end up in criminal and civil court for it Evil or Very Mad

i think castle doctrine has him covered. he was in fear for his life. he thought they might shoot at him again.

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Senate Bill 378 also provides immunity from civil liability for a personal injury or death resulting from the use of force or deadly force to a defendant who was justified under the law in using such force or deadly force.
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PostSubject: Re: why guns should be allowed to be carried.   Thu 09 Apr 2009, 4:43 pm

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i think castle doctrine has him covered. he was in fear for his life. he thought they might shoot at him again.

Yeah. But that won't stop it from going to court. It will be a decision that a judge will have to make. Unfortunately since they were fleeing, castle may not hold up. Even if it does hold up in criminal court, he could still lose his ass in civil court. Especially if he's white and the criminals are black. Then ol' Quanel X will go shootin off his mouth and drag the poor guy thru a huge lawsuit.
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PostSubject: Re: why guns should be allowed to be carried.   Thu 09 Apr 2009, 4:43 pm

i think i am going to post the castle doctrine on my front door...

intruder beware...
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PostSubject: Re: why guns should be allowed to be carried.   Thu 09 Apr 2009, 4:44 pm

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JK-fredd0 wrote:


i think castle doctrine has him covered. he was in fear for his life. he thought they might shoot at him again.

Yeah. But that won't stop it from going to court. It will be a decision that a judge will have to make. Unfortunately since they were fleeing, castle may not hold up. Even if it does hold up in criminal court, he could still lose his ass in civil court. Especially if he's white and the criminals are black. Then ol' Quanel X will go shootin off his mouth and drag the poor guy thru a huge lawsuit.

if it holds up in criminal court they cannot try him in civil court. that is the beauty of the castle doctrine.

also, they can be running, you just have to be in fear that they may come back... that already happened in houston. i will look for the case
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PostSubject: Re: why guns should be allowed to be carried.   Thu 09 Apr 2009, 4:57 pm

here is another part that gives the OK to use deadly force in defense of another person.

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Sec. 9.32. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON. (a) A person is justified in using deadly force against another:

(1) if the actor [he] would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.31; and

(2) [if a reasonable person in the actor's situation would not have retreated; and

[(3)] when and to the degree the actor [he] reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

(A) to protect the actor [himself] against the otherís use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force; or

(B) to prevent the otherís imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.
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PostSubject: Re: why guns should be allowed to be carried.   Sat 11 Apr 2009, 10:22 am

Thats why im never more than arms reach of my .45
which is only for getting back to the jeep where the AK sleeps Twisted Evil

this is a perfect example of the question i always get..
" why do you pack them guns around everywhere"?

you never know when that right there will happen... just some random moron that stole a gun wants to go shootin at random people around town..
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PostSubject: Re: why guns should be allowed to be carried.   Sat 11 Apr 2009, 1:43 pm

I hope he gets off, he needs to firmly stick to the "I was in fear of my life" story and I would have said that they were pointing a gun at me when I fired the shot too. If he was on an overpass and they were driving away he is going to get pounded for shooting at (and hitting) what some may believe is no longer a threat.

Nice shootin though - three outta four with a kill shot (BONUS!!!) is a tough task. I hope it at least makes some of those terds think twice about who they mess with. There are many of us that are going to shoot back. cheers

Cops on this one were smart to let it go to the grand jury. That is going to decide what happens next and I hope that there are some good folks (like us) on that jury - hopefully someone who has been a victim before and not a bunch of tree hugging liberals.
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PostSubject: Re: why guns should be allowed to be carried.   Sat 11 Apr 2009, 1:54 pm

A little more on the Castle Doctrine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Doctrine_in_the_US

Texas statute:
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/80R/billtext/html/SB00378F.htm

There were some cool "Protected by the Castle Doctrine" signs at the gun show last week, I thought about getting a couple for the house.
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