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TxRubiRig
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PostSubject: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 3:41 pm

not sure where to put this, so just do it here.

I have lots of mods going thru my head; however, I'm not talented enough to get them down in print.

Can someone help me get my ideas onto photoshop or some cad program or something?

This has mostly has to do with fenders, comp cut, rear bumper, rear stinger and cage
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 4:11 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 4:20 pm

Even has your winch!
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 4:45 pm

LOL...yes I've got the pics saved on my comp...and the rear comp is pretty darn close to what I'm thinking

fyi..I'm think that the rear cut could mimick the lines of the front (with the angle and hieght)...not sure how the back should be cut...i want a rear stinger to go through the body (kinda like the bestop tj tire carrier) on both sides (go through where the hinges are at now) and connect to the new roll cage that would be in place...the stinger would then open with the tailgate...the stinger would look a lot like what offroad evolution made (once)
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 4:58 pm

TxRubiRig wrote:
i want a rear stinger to go through the body (kinda like the bestop tj tire carrier) on both sides (go through where the hinges are at now) and connect to the new roll cage that would be in place...the stinger would then open with the tailgate...the stinger would look a lot like what offroad evolution made (once)

Not sure I follow what you are trying to describe bud?
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 5:05 pm

LMAO...thats my prob

OK...take the jeep you posted and basically add a rear stinger to it (much like EVO)...the stinger would swing out like a tire carrier...



however, the ends of this stinger would not go all the ends of the jeep...instead it would go through the rear of the body and attach to the rollbar on both sides (going through the point where the tailgate hinge is attached


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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 5:06 pm

I would like to be able to open the stinger and tailgate at the sametime...like Steve's
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 5:17 pm

another mod...the rear frame and crossmember

only at the very end...cut the frame rail's height approximately in half...the point where the crossframe is at its "Y"...the make the crossmember not have the slope downwards, instead straight across

that making sense to any of ya'll reading?
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 5:28 pm

TxRubiRig wrote:
I would like to be able to open the stinger and tailgate at the sametime...like Steve's

The way you are describing, it won't work very well if at all. The stinger carrier really need to be independent to keep it simple and in my opinion more stout.
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 5:44 pm

???

think of tube coming from the rollbar from inside the interior through the back of the body and then attached to the stinger.

i don't want the stinger to only be connected to the metal quarter panels?

i don't think you could get any more stout this way

so why do ya say it wouldn't work...?
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 6:51 pm

If you did something like Steve's , it would be easy, like that EVO carrier, it ain't going to spread the mustard. You'll have to have it pivot independently.
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 7:14 pm

Ok if I have got this right...the way I see it the stinger would hinge with the tailgate mounted to it. The hinges are the issue. All hinges need to be on the same linear plane (like on a door) if not there will have to be a sliding arrangement, compromising the structural integrity. It could be done with a fair amount of sheet metal work (and beer). I am no engineer, just a redneck who has welded lots of BBQ pits together.

Now the cross member deal I don't quite follow...as well as the purpose scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 7:30 pm

the stinger would move independant of the tailgate...when wanted...and to so...


grrrrrrrr.....nm.....wait till I see on of ya in person...this typing shit is my whole prob...lol
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 7:41 pm

Me too buddy.... had to type all of that twice. When i punched preview the site lost my post grrr.
God made these fingers for wrenchin, not typin
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 7:48 pm

If I understand correctly, you want to go thru the quarter panels where the lights are on both sides and attach to the rollbars on the inside. That would be very stout. The problem I see is how would it detach? You mentioned the Rockrash design like on Steves. That carrier only attaches to the one side where it pivots. It has a secondary attachment to the tailgate to pull it open/close combined but it isn't a load carrying mount. It also wouldn't protect from the rear like a stinger.

For your rear stinger/tire carrier you would need a connection with a latch or pull pin or something to disconnect the stinger on one side to allow it to pivot open. It could still have the arm that attaches to the tailgate. It would then be a two step process to open and close. Unlock the stinger. Open the tailgate/stinger carrier combo.
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 8:32 pm

Joe, with a stinger carrier, your tire and wheel are going to interfere with the gate opening. I can't type the explanation, I'd have to show you. basically, the tire and wheel are going to become the white center in the Oreo lol. They have to move independently.
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 8:58 pm

Nothing like a cookie reference to explain things!


I get it...
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 11:10 pm

Thats what I was talking about the whole hinge alignment thang!
If you hinge the rack and attach the tailgate to it......the whole Oreo will swing.
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Tue 03 Nov 2009, 11:24 pm

Do something like this instead; then you can store all your tops under it too!Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Wed 04 Nov 2009, 8:58 am

terrahawk wrote:
Do something like this instead; then you can store all your tops under it too!Very Happy

I think that is what you (Jody) need to do.
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Fri 06 Nov 2009, 4:06 pm

George's exact idea my friend, I'm sure with a Geo twist!
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PostSubject: Re: Help request...   Mon 09 Nov 2009, 7:03 pm

OK...armor...looks like it gonna be EVO builder kit (no flares)...that is unless there another out there that I don't know about...anyone?

So, EVO armor...1st look at the pic below:



...now pretend that wrap is the armor.

So what if tubing outlined the armor (such as where the fake rivots are in the pic, minus the door)?

thoughts?
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