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PostSubject: Concerned about running without rock rails   Mon 12 May 2008, 12:43 pm

Need advice. I am planning on going to the Boulder Creek trip on May 24th with some of you guy's.
I don't have rocker guards yet, and my Sahara steps will crack at the first rock it looks at.

Should I be overly concerned of running the JK to Boulder Creek without sliders/ or rock guards?

Will the frame suffice enough protection for the day. I will probably not wheel it too hard, as it is my first time off road.

Set my mind at ease. I have been trying to pick up a set of rubi rock rails, but have not found any in my price range.
It would not be a long term solution as I need one that would have to be a step as well.

I am eyeing the Rock Hard sliders/steps, but they are $799. affraid Currently I am $794 short of being able to pay for those, need to do a little saving I guess geek

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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Mon 12 May 2008, 12:48 pm

I don't think Boulder has many rocks and In2Mud use to bash his steps and they never broke on him so you should be fine

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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Mon 12 May 2008, 12:53 pm

take off the steps before you go ........they will hurt the body BAD if you get them up aginst anything, and if you do dent up the rockers here is the fix

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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Mon 12 May 2008, 1:00 pm

Thanks for the feedback guy's. I'll just run without them and be reasonably carefull on the trails.
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Mon 12 May 2008, 1:32 pm

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I don't think Boulder has many rocks and In2Mud use to bash his steps and they never broke on him so you should be fine

Yeah, but I was also smart enough to remove them for the Longs trip. As Redneck said, they will hurt the body if you get up against anything. I run my sidesteps at Spring Creek because it is mostly dirt. Rocks (like at Longs) are a lot less forgiving
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Mon 12 May 2008, 1:39 pm

Thanks for the feedback. Now is Boulder Creek, and forgive me I sound ignorant, as the name already mentions "boulder", mostly trails or is it a rock crawling place.

also, what does our group typically run? Trails or rocks?
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Mon 12 May 2008, 2:39 pm

If you've never really wheeled I doubt you would feel comfortable in any situation that could damage yours rockers. That having been said I would remove your steps as you said.

When you do buy rails I would recommend the Poly Performance high clearance rocker guards. For a 4dr they cost $675. They offer 3 to 4" more clearance than anything else out there (except TeraFlex that shares design) and are very well intergrated in the JK's overall design. If I didn't trade for my Shrockworks rails (read free to me) I would have the Poly Performance rails without a second thought.
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Mon 12 May 2008, 2:51 pm

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If you've never really wheeled I doubt you would feel comfortable in any situation that could damage yours rockers. That having been said I would remove your steps as you said.

When you do buy rails I would recommend the Poly Performance high clearance rocker guards. For a 4dr they cost $675. They offer 3 to 4" more clearance than anything else out there (except TeraFlex that shares design) and are very well intergrated in the JK's overall design. If I didn't trade for my Shrockworks rails (read free to me) I would have the Poly Performance rails without a second thought.

Does the Polly Performance rails also have a step? It will make it easier for my wife & Kids to get into the JK.
That is why I was looking into the rock hard ones.
I like the fact that they kind of protect all the way down to the frame, and looks like sliding off obstacles will be easier.
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Mon 12 May 2008, 3:04 pm

Dutchboy101 wrote:
Does the Polly Performance rails also have a step? It will make it easier for my wife & Kids to get into the JK.
That is why I was looking into the rock hard ones.
I like the fact that they kind of protect all the way down to the frame, and looks like sliding off obstacles will be easier.

Not really. Most real off-the-shelf rock rails that tuck tight against the body will be too high to effectively use as an everyday step. My kids use my Shrockworks rails to climb in on, but to most adults they are a hindrance to step over.
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Mon 12 May 2008, 3:55 pm

Dutchboy101 wrote:
Duke wrote:
If you've never really wheeled I doubt you would feel comfortable in any situation that could damage yours rockers. That having been said I would remove your steps as you said.

When you do buy rails I would recommend the Poly Performance high clearance rocker guards. For a 4dr they cost $675. They offer 3 to 4" more clearance than anything else out there (except TeraFlex that shares design) and are very well intergrated in the JK's overall design. If I didn't trade for my Shrockworks rails (read free to me) I would have the Poly Performance rails without a second thought.

Does the Polly Performance rails also have a step? It will make it easier for my wife & Kids to get into the JK.
That is why I was looking into the rock hard ones.
I like the fact that they kind of protect all the way down to the frame, and looks like sliding off obstacles will be easier.

The PP rocker guards do not have a step. We just installed these on a Jeep right before Moab. The Rock Hard ones that I have do have a step but it is a little high to be useful. See picture:





They can sure take a beating though. I like how they are higher though for use on the rocks. My GF doesn't think they are too high though which is good I guess.
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Mon 12 May 2008, 4:12 pm

I really like the RH. I know that I will have to somehow compromise for my steps and sliders.
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Mon 12 May 2008, 4:18 pm

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I really like the RH. I know that I will have to somehow compromise for my steps and sliders.

I wish we sold their stuff. I have been to their shop in Minden Nebraska a few times. Lewis is the owner (Louie) and he is a great guy. His stuff is basic but pretty dang hardcore to be honest. He has done a great job cutting down costs by using the same parts from a TJ to an XJ to a JK (i.e. the tire carrier for all are about the same). This helps reduce the cost big time for us.

If you buy the two door rocker guards you are getting something that my Jeep helped make! He took my JK for a couple of weeks and fit the 2dr gas tank skid and sliders using my JK. One of the perks I guess!
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Tue 13 May 2008, 6:24 pm

you helped with the R&D?! why arent you able to sell there stuff?
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Tue 13 May 2008, 6:30 pm

Their buy in is goofy. We don't want to carry that much of anyones inventory.
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Wed 14 May 2008, 10:15 am

Sasha, I've got mine I'll part with cheap (and before Boulder). Call me on the cell
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Wed 14 May 2008, 11:09 am

I replied to your PM.
I am interested.
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Wed 14 May 2008, 11:13 am

PM me your cell number. I didn't save it in my phone
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Wed 14 May 2008, 11:57 am

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Dutchboy101 wrote:
I really like the RH. I know that I will have to somehow compromise for my steps and sliders.

I wish we sold their stuff. I have been to their shop in Minden Nebraska a few times. Lewis is the owner (Louie) and he is a great guy. His stuff is basic but pretty dang hardcore to be honest. He has done a great job cutting down costs by using the same parts from a TJ to an XJ to a JK (i.e. the tire carrier for all are about the same). This helps reduce the cost big time for us.

If you buy the two door rocker guards you are getting something that my Jeep helped make! He took my JK for a couple of weeks and fit the 2dr gas tank skid and sliders using my JK. One of the perks I guess!

I have also been looking into there skid plates.
But I haven't picked the manufacturer I am going with just yet.
I might just buy skids that are not powdercoated and just line X them.
No need for them to look pretty, if I am just gonna bang'em up :reflection:
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Wed 14 May 2008, 2:53 pm

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you helped with the R&D?! why arent you able to sell there stuff?

Wait...come to find out...I can get you their stuff now. Since we use 4wd.com as one of our wholesalers we can get their parts Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Wed 14 May 2008, 5:34 pm

Those RH ones look kick ass. but $800 affraid

think i'd get my ARB locker first for that price.
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Wed 14 May 2008, 6:51 pm

TMBJK wrote:
jkx0778 wrote:
you helped with the R&D?! why arent you able to sell there stuff?

Wait...come to find out...I can get you their stuff now. Since we use 4wd.com as one of our wholesalers we can get their parts Very Happy

Are you able to get us a good discount?
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Wed 14 May 2008, 7:14 pm

Dutchboy101 wrote:
TMBJK wrote:
jkx0778 wrote:
you helped with the R&D?! why arent you able to sell there stuff?

Wait...come to find out...I can get you their stuff now. Since we use 4wd.com as one of our wholesalers we can get their parts Very Happy

Are you able to get us a good discount?

I can try! I haven't sold a lot through 4wd so I would have to check.
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Mon 19 May 2008, 5:08 pm

pp rocker guards

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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Mon 19 May 2008, 6:27 pm

man... I got some really BAD ASS rock rails that are gonna make y'all jealous! No pictures yet- top secret prototypes pirat
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PostSubject: Re: Concerned about running without rock rails   Mon 19 May 2008, 8:21 pm

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pp rocker guards

Yeah.....I`m gonna have to.....ask you to go ahead and not post this here.......yeah. Seems that these **** *********** ***** are no longer allowed on here.....mmmk. If you could do this for me .......that would be greeeaaaatt.




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