New Tires

I looking for new tires but im having a hard time trying to pick out the best tires.I have a set of Dick Cepek 265/70/17 Mud Countrys with 55.000 miles on them. they have been good tires but im ready to change it up and go bigger for sure.any feed back on your tires would help

Love my Toyo Open Country M/T's. The Side wall is stiff enough for our 4 door, and they have great reviews. 10 Ply sidewall thickness make them pretty much bomb proof.

A lot of people rag on these as trail/mud/snow tires, but I have BFG All-Terrain T/A KO's. I've run them on two trucks, and my Jeep and I love them. If your rig is a DD with occasional wheeling trip, then I don't think you can do better than these.

If you're looking at something that looks sick and performs well in mud and rocks, I'd look at the Toyo Open Country M/T's, or Nitto Trail Grapplers. I've also heard some good things about the new General Grabbers https://www.tirebuyer.com/tirepreviews/general_grabber_rl_1000x1000.jpg.

Here is a shot of them on a JK.
https://2img.net/h/i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc37/dougnpj/2009-11-29102556.jpg

That's three to chew on. Good luck in your choice.

I recently went with the Cooper Discover STT's in a 35". They have the same contact pattern as the Toyo's but on the Cooper website and out on some of the other forums, sense they are supposed to be truck tires (F-250, 2500+ range), guys with jeeps that have run them have claimed to get as much as 75k out of them. True or not I don't know, but they are aggressive and certainly durable.

I had a set of the Toyo open country m/t's on my 2003 Ram 3500 dually 4X4 and had about 50,000 on them and pulled alot they are 10ply tires and take some getting use to when you goto move over they move no side wall sway and are very good in mud and sand that we have down here in south Bexar Co. we pulled a 26' dove tail trailer with Lil David's race car on it every other weekend for three years and they also work rear well on wet boat ramps. Nedless to say I loved mine

Tvernon wrote:

I recently went with the Cooper Discover STT's in a 35". They have the same contact pattern as the Toyo's but on the Cooper website and out on some of the other forums, sense they are supposed to be truck tires (F-250, 2500+ range), guys with jeeps that have run them have claimed to get as much as 75k out of them. True or not I don't know, but they are aggressive and certainly durable.

I had the Cooper Discoverer STTs 35x12.5x17s.....only problem with them was that they are a soft tire and chunked pretty easy. I went with the Goodyear MTR/Ks and they work great on the road and off-road!

I'm running Firestone Destination M/Ts in the 315/70r17 flavor. I got a great price on them and they have 20k miles with more than 50% tread left. I have no complaints. They are pretty decent in rain for an MT and not too loud.

Toyo everytime! I use to run BFG's all the time and switched to Toyo M/T and have not look back since. I love them, quiet on the asphalt and tough on the rocks. With the 10ply the are strong enough

I'm a fan of The Nitto terra and mud grapplers. I've run both of them and currently have 40,000 on my mud grapplers and they are just now getting close to being worn out... btw, thats almost all interstate and hughway miles ~70mph for 5-7 hours at a time.

I have Cooper STT and I'm not too happy bout them and how they are "chunking" off lugs. They do grab very well on rocks, but get torn up too easy. Love 'em but I hate 'em!

Hmmm, this is the first time I have heard anything bad about the Coopers, and the tire dealer told me that they were a hard rubber??? If I discover I have been lied too I will probably be pretty pissed.

i have two 265/70-17 BFG AT with low miles was going to run them but i am going a deferent direction i wanted a mud and sand tire if your interested let me know i am selling them

thanks for the feedback im still stuck in between km2s,toyo or just getting another set of dick cepek mt

The Toyo open country were looking pretty damn good until I found that they weigh 83lbs each (WTF?). That's about 6lbs heavier than the heaviest 35 I had found so far....for a dedicated trail truck I wouldn't care but for a DD that's gonna suck and there's no way it won't affect performance.

Toyo Specs
http://marktg.toyotires.com/file/18136.pdf

General Grabber 77.6lbs
Kumho Road Venture are 75lbs
BFG KM2 is 68 lbs
GY Wrangler MT/R are 64lbs
Yoko Geolander are 61lbs

All of these weights are for 35R12.5 17

I was helping someone look for tires and I was surprised to find out how well the Hankook MT's fared in a recent test.

Marcus at RCO has been doing some heavy tire research lately as he's ready to replace his shoes. He looked very hard at the Hankooks but I think they have a slight backorder of a few weeks.

A lot of the 35x17s are backordered....pickins are slim!

rlogan wrote:

The Toyo open country were looking pretty damn good until I found that they weigh 83lbs each (WTF?). That's about 6lbs heavier than the heaviest 35 I had found so far....for a dedicated trail truck I wouldn't care but for a DD that's gonna suck and there's no way it won't affect performance.

Toyo Specs
http://marktg.toyotires.com/file/18136.pdf

General Grabber 77.6lbs
Kumho Road Venture are 75lbs
BFG KM2 is 68 lbs
GY Wrangler MT/R are 64lbs
Yoko Geolander are 61lbs

All of these weights are for 35R12.5 17

It's not bad I still around 15 mpg with my Toyos. No worse that any other 35's. The few extra pounds is not going to hurt your MPG, it's your brakes that are going to to crap fast.

rlogan wrote:

The Toyo open country were looking pretty damn good until I found that they weigh 83lbs each (WTF?). That's about 6lbs heavier than the heaviest 35 I had found so far....for a dedicated trail truck I wouldn't care but for a DD that's gonna suck and there's no way it won't affect performance.

Toyo Specs
http://marktg.toyotires.com/file/18136.pdf

General Grabber 77.6lbs
Kumho Road Venture are 75lbs
BFG KM2 is 68 lbs
GY Wrangler MT/R are 64lbs
Yoko Geolander are 61lbs

All of these weights are for 35R12.5 17

I like playing the devil's advocate. If you are considering an 83lb tire, why not just get a 37" tire.
BFG KM2 = 70 lbs
Goodyear MT/R = 74 lbs

I found it funny/curious that the KM2 is heavier in the 35 but lighter in the 37 when compared to the MT/R with Kevlar. I liked the Toyos but that weight would kill my stock carrier so its off the table until I get a new rear bumper/carrier.

For daily driver duty I don't think there is a better behaved tire than the BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO. The 315/70R17 is a 35" class tire that ways 64 lbs. Mine are no noisier than the stock duelers they replaced.

I know it's not the most bad-a$$ looking tire, and people bash it for not being an M/T, but I've run these on two trucks and my Jeep and love it. They last forever too. The set I ran on my 98 Ram had 40k on them and half their tread left when I traded it.

Bizarro wrote:

I like playing the devil's advocate. If you are considering an 83lb tire, why not just get a 37" tire.
BFG KM2 = 70 lbs
Goodyear MT/R = 74 lbs

I found it funny/curious that the KM2 is heavier in the 35 but lighter in the 37 when compared to the MT/R with Kevlar. I liked the Toyos but that weight would kill my stock carrier so its off the table until I get a new rear bumper/carrier.

Yeah, I wasn't even thinking about the carrier....anyway you slice it...83 lbs is insane. I'd prefer to stay in the mid 60s for a 35. Only downside to the 37s is the extra cost.

i think im just going to get the km2s but 285/70/17s i have way to much stuff going on right now my drive shaft went out and im starting to get the wolbes bad i changed out my stablizer shock but it came back

Don't let the wobbles get you down!

You don't need a stabilizer on your Jeep if your front suspension is set up correctly. I have 37's and I'm still using a stock stabilizer!

One - make sure your drag link and track bar are in phase. Make sure the track bar is tightened down to the correct torque setting. Yes, the torque setting makes a HUGE difference here. Check it again.

Two - are you wobbles like death wobbles or an out of balance type wobble?

Three - alignment. Make sure that puppy is dialed in right. You can align it yourself. All you have is toe in/out.

I may try some falken wild peaks on my factory wheels and get some steelies and more gnarly tires for off road. The falken are supposed to be good in everything but mud.

There is a pretty good writeup for wobbles and shimmies that I ran across yesterday...I'll see if I can find it.

Here it is...
http://www.jk-forum.com/showthread.php?132779-Diagnosing-Death-Wobble-and-Fixing-Non-DW-Shimmies-and-Wobbles&highlight=death+wobble