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recoveryfive Straight off the lot
Number of posts : 12 Location : Ft Sam Houston Rig : 93 grand cherokee (war wagon) specs. : 5.2L, 3in spacer lift, 33in pro comps on eagle alloy's Registration date : 2011-10-14
| Subject: 93 grand cherokee popping noise from right front Thu 20 Oct 2011, 3:47 pm | |
| I have a 93 Cherokee that when the front drive shaft is in and I step on the gas I get a popping noise from the right front side of the axle. I'm thinking it is a broken shaft but haven't torn it apart yet. Any ideas? | |
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Chris Got No Life
Number of posts : 962 Age : 49 Location : San Antonio Rig : 1990 XJ Trigger specs. : 4.5in. Rubicon Express lift. JCR front winch bumper. Warn 9in. dual beam lights. PIAA 520 ATP Extreme White lights on Conn Ferr Roof Rack. Cooper STT 285/75/16 on Moab rims. Ramsey 8000 winch. 4:10 G2 gears. Aussie 30 locker, and Detroit Tru Trac locker Dana 44. Poison Syder diff covers Registration date : 2010-10-19
| Subject: Re: 93 grand cherokee popping noise from right front Thu 20 Oct 2011, 8:41 pm | |
| You have cv axles correct? might be a bad cv joint.
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recoveryfive Straight off the lot
Number of posts : 12 Location : Ft Sam Houston Rig : 93 grand cherokee (war wagon) specs. : 5.2L, 3in spacer lift, 33in pro comps on eagle alloy's Registration date : 2011-10-14
| Subject: Re: 93 grand cherokee popping noise from right front Thu 20 Oct 2011, 8:54 pm | |
| Ya I do, but it does it even going straight and only with the front driveshaft in. I popped the cover of the diff cover and saw what looks like teeth marks on the carrier | |
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lonestar rubi Got No Life
Number of posts : 1202 Age : 54 Location : san antionio Rig : 2007 JK unlimited Rubicon specs. : It's over there} Registration date : 2010-06-21
| Subject: Re: 93 grand cherokee popping noise from right front Thu 20 Oct 2011, 10:49 pm | |
| Well it's either you drive shaft u joints or the transfer. Your front axle is always engaged, spins the drive shaft, spins the transfer case. That's because there no more "locking hubs". All that spins on its own going down the street. When you put it in 4WD then you send power to it. So with or without you drive shaft on place the axle would make the same noise. It goes away because it's not your axle. I would look at your u joints or t-case. | |
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Stouttrout Poster child
Number of posts : 347 Age : 52 Location : Sour Lake, Texas Rig : Multiple (too many) JEEPS Registration date : 2008-01-30
| Subject: Re: 93 grand cherokee popping noise from right front Thu 20 Oct 2011, 10:50 pm | |
| What does your pinion feel like? Could be Pinion bearings. Could be carrier bearings. Could be spider gears, what do they look like. A bad CV would do it all time usually. The fact that it only does it when the front shaft is in leads me to believe it is something else. | |
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Stouttrout Poster child
Number of posts : 347 Age : 52 Location : Sour Lake, Texas Rig : Multiple (too many) JEEPS Registration date : 2008-01-30
| Subject: Re: 93 grand cherokee popping noise from right front Thu 20 Oct 2011, 10:52 pm | |
| - lonestar rubi wrote:
- Well it's either you drive shaft u joints or the transfer. Your front axle is always engaged, spins the drive shaft, spins the transfer case. That's because there no more "locking hubs". All that spins on its own going down the street. When you put it in 4WD then you send power to it. So with or without you drive shaft on place the axle would make the same noise. It goes away because it's not your axle. I would look at your u joints or t-case.
Not necessarily. Everything spins, yes but when you add a Dshaft on it, there is a weighted load now on the Pinion. The extra resistance from that and the tcase can show loaded problems on the front axle. | |
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recoveryfive Straight off the lot
Number of posts : 12 Location : Ft Sam Houston Rig : 93 grand cherokee (war wagon) specs. : 5.2L, 3in spacer lift, 33in pro comps on eagle alloy's Registration date : 2011-10-14
| Subject: Re: 93 grand cherokee popping noise from right front Thu 20 Oct 2011, 10:57 pm | |
| Like I posted earlier, there are gouge marks in the carrier where the shaft goes for the spider gears which look like they came from the pinion, which has a good amount of play in it while twisting it left and right before it turns the ring gear. Differentials are still a dark art to me. My transfer is the np249 and it does have a lil wobble in the front output shaft, and I plan on swapping in one that has 2wd instead of all time 4wd. | |
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Stouttrout Poster child
Number of posts : 347 Age : 52 Location : Sour Lake, Texas Rig : Multiple (too many) JEEPS Registration date : 2008-01-30
| Subject: Re: 93 grand cherokee popping noise from right front Thu 20 Oct 2011, 11:07 pm | |
| Also, what Dshaft do you have? the cv? Best swap ever on these is set of U joint axles and U joint Dshaft. Also swap in a 242 tcase. You should be able to do the whole swap for about 4200 in parts. On the pinion, you not really looking for twist play, but wobble play. | |
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Stouttrout Poster child
Number of posts : 347 Age : 52 Location : Sour Lake, Texas Rig : Multiple (too many) JEEPS Registration date : 2008-01-30
| Subject: Re: 93 grand cherokee popping noise from right front Thu 20 Oct 2011, 11:10 pm | |
| The twist is normal as long as it is with in spec and the teeth hit right, but if it wobbles, then you got problems. the tcase you have is the 249. It is grand son to the Qudratrac (Quadrajunk) tcase out of the full size waggy | |
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recoveryfive Straight off the lot
Number of posts : 12 Location : Ft Sam Houston Rig : 93 grand cherokee (war wagon) specs. : 5.2L, 3in spacer lift, 33in pro comps on eagle alloy's Registration date : 2011-10-14
| Subject: Re: 93 grand cherokee popping noise from right front Thu 20 Oct 2011, 11:11 pm | |
| Sorry that's a nv247j, I want to put a nv242j in it | |
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recoveryfive Straight off the lot
Number of posts : 12 Location : Ft Sam Houston Rig : 93 grand cherokee (war wagon) specs. : 5.2L, 3in spacer lift, 33in pro comps on eagle alloy's Registration date : 2011-10-14
| Subject: Re: 93 grand cherokee popping noise from right front Thu 20 Oct 2011, 11:14 pm | |
| I wouldn't know what within specs means, I saw an article in jp about doing the 242 swap in a wj with the v8 and all they had to do was change the input shaft. My front drive shaft is the double carinin style | |
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Stouttrout Poster child
Number of posts : 347 Age : 52 Location : Sour Lake, Texas Rig : Multiple (too many) JEEPS Registration date : 2008-01-30
| Subject: Re: 93 grand cherokee popping noise from right front Fri 21 Oct 2011, 2:21 am | |
| What year is your GC? Do you have WJ running gear? If you have 1993 ZJ GC, and you have select trac you should have an np249. This uses a viscous coupler to transfer power to both axles. This can cause some knocking but still unlikely source, possible, but unlikely. The Quadra-Drive NV247 was not used till 1999. Also if you have the Vari-Lok limited slip your suppose to use friction modifier additive in the gear oil. If you do not this can cause some binding.
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recoveryfive Straight off the lot
Number of posts : 12 Location : Ft Sam Houston Rig : 93 grand cherokee (war wagon) specs. : 5.2L, 3in spacer lift, 33in pro comps on eagle alloy's Registration date : 2011-10-14
| Subject: Re: 93 grand cherokee popping noise from right front Fri 21 Oct 2011, 8:34 am | |
| It's a 93, its not wj running gear. How do I tell if I have the limited slip | |
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jkx0778 Pathetic
Number of posts : 2490 Age : 46 Location : San Antonio, TX Rig : 2008 unlimited specs. : in progress Registration date : 2008-01-29
| Subject: Re: 93 grand cherokee popping noise from right front Fri 21 Oct 2011, 1:33 pm | |
| My wifes car had a bad CV axle about a year ago. It made a grinding popping sound at turns and at different speeds. Sometimes when accelerating or sometimes when letting off the gas. It wasn't constant until it got REAAAAALLLLLLY bad after about 8 months. Then it made the grinding sound ALL the time. | |
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Stouttrout Poster child
Number of posts : 347 Age : 52 Location : Sour Lake, Texas Rig : Multiple (too many) JEEPS Registration date : 2008-01-30
| Subject: Re: 93 grand cherokee popping noise from right front Sun 23 Oct 2011, 9:21 pm | |
| it is a 93 with stock gear and you have 247? If you don't have WJ gear or the 247 you will not have the Vari-Lok limited slip | |
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