Left front wheel clicking in 4 low

Today i was out playing and got stuck. We broke a bunch of straps and a cable trying to get myself out. I used an old trick of putting the strap through my rim, wrapping it around the tire and securing the other end. As I was climbing out my left front wheel started clicking and chattering. After I got out 4 low makes a snapping noise comming from the left front. I put it in 2 wheel and drove out. When I was on the way home I hear a growling/cement mixer noise but only after 25mph. Does anyone know what this could be? Everything looks fine, nothing is loose.

Are you sure it's coming from the left front. Maybe you have a stone jammed into the caliper, or maybe a u-joint cap is hosed up.

drain the fluid, and pull the cover , my money is on a broke carrier , side and spider gears and bent the cross pin..............but thats just a guess.....

if you did what i think you did, basically using the front axle as a winch drum, you imposed a load of 10k or so ft/lbs on a front axle with a failure point around 5k ft/lbs

i'm absolutely amazed the u-joints or yokes dident snap

now i'm going to preach a bit....

maybe you should look into some proper recovery gear and more importantly some off-road training, as what (i think) you did was almost certian to break stuff.

I took a really good look and found that my c clips are pulling loose from my wheel joints. Easy fix....... as far as the tractor winch method when done correctly yes it puts more strain, with a weak strap and no gas pedal its pretty safe...... do what needs to be done. I have plenty of offroad experience. I may not have as many computer hours as you though? I'm willing to guess you would call a hi-lift dangerous also..... hmm maybe I should just watch some training videos on how to sit back and let nature take my rig? Everything is dangerous especially winches, but we all use them. If you have nothing left to do what then? Ok I guess ill just let you preach some more. BTW if anyone is out there that actually wheels their JK then this will happen to you. I have found many that test the limits and end D44 they have the same c clip design. If anyone has any questions about this feel free to contact me.

Sunburst JK wrote:

I took a really good look and found that my c clips are pulling loose from my wheel joints. Easy fix....... as far as the tractor winch method when done correctly yes it puts more strain, with a weak strap and no gas pedal its pretty safe...... do what needs to be done. I have plenty of offroad experience. I may not have as many computer hours as you though? I'm willing to guess you would call a hi-lift dangerous also..... hmm maybe I should just watch some training videos on how to sit back and let nature take my rig? Everything is dangerous especially winches, but we all use them. If you have nothing left to do what then? Ok I guess ill just let you preach some more. BTW if anyone is out there that actually wheels their JK then this will happen to you. I have found many that test the limits and end D44 they have the same c clip design. If anyone has any questions about this feel free to contact me.

Hmmm...this now has the potenial of getting real interesting

grabbin popcorn

OK...so I can't let it go right now

I read G's post again...(IMO only) I saw nothing degrading or anything of the like in it...I go back and read yours...well its a little different

think maybe ya got a lil but hurt there...it'll pass

as far as the tractor winch method...I have no experience and won't say much about it; HOWEVER, you also agreed with G about the strain on the axle and potenial of damage...yes, I agree with you...IF thats all ya got then ya do what ya got to do....BUT I see G also pointing out, that you should be out wheeling with proper gear

The computer hours...LMAO...WTF...hmmm, so kinda like my dick is bigger than your dick childish comment

The Hi-lift...yes I believe most will agree that this is the jack that has the most potential for danger (no matter what level of experience); HOWEVER, it does have its use...I'm thinking of Cody's Jeep @ 1st TSJM (those that were working on the gear, are those that I think most on these forums would be very knowledgable and experienced....yet the jack still slipped)

If anyone ACTUALLY WHEELS their Jeep then this will happen to you...so who exactly are you trying to call out?

Training...while G will tear the shit out of his rig, he won't let others do it to theirs (unless he feels comfortable w/them and their abilities and all)...in case ya didn't know, G and company recently held an off road recovery training day @ Brazos Valley...we can all learn something new from everybody...now I'm starting to ramble so...

BASICALLY everything we do, everything we use has the pontenal for danger/harm...some more than others

FYI...aint mad @ ya or anything...just think your last post needed a little addressing

Sunburst JK wrote:

....I may not have as many computer hours as you though? I'm willing to guess you would call a hi-lift dangerous also..... hmm maybe I should just watch some training videos on how to sit back and let nature take my rig? Everything is dangerous especially winches, but we all use them. If you have nothing left to do what then? Ok I guess ill just let you preach some more. BTW if anyone is out there that actually wheels their JK then this will happen to you...

This is going to be fun.....

This is a tech forum not a preaching forum........ tech usually involves input of situations and advise on technical subjects. So again if anyone has questions about wheel u joints or have a shared experience please post. If you have something else to say it may be better to send a pm or put it in the general section. Have a nice day

Sunburst JK wrote:

This is a tech forum not a preaching forum........ tech usually involves input of situations and advise on technical subjects. So again if anyone has questions about wheel u joints or have a shared experience please post. If you have something else to say it may be better to send a pm or put it in the general section. Have a nice day

LOL...it was u who opened the can w/your 2nd post

A u-joint is a u-joint, be it on the axle shaft or the drive shaft. JK's don't have full circle clips and they have a history of coming loose. Tack weld them, and run on...


Here's some preachin' for ya.

Must be the water up there in waco

Ya know, I awnsered your post, the one where you asked what was wrong
with your jeep, with a guess......a guess, and tried to explain why(IMO)

And you come back like this?

I really don't understand, you told Jeep Nation to go jump off a cliff, and then come back looking for advise on your problem.....and then get all butt hurt because i said what you were doing was a bad idea. I said that simply because, if you had the proper equipment and procedures you wouldent HAVE to "do what ya have to do". there is a reason for the couple of hundred lbs of recovery equipment most of us carry around with us. A "tractor winch" is great if you have a tractor, my tractor's axle is f'nn huge compared to even a dana 60. and the "wheel winches" on the market opperate from the back wheels.....where the strength is.

now, you have personally insulted me, with your witty quips about my hours on computer, when in fact i spend more time wheeling and wrenching than i ever could on the puter, but you wouldent know this as i dont wheel the mudholes around a lake in central texas, so i see only one solution............a duel

you pick the time and the park............how bout k2, mid march,?

This could be quite exciting lol

I'm always up for riding. Rather rocks and cliffs than mud any day. I never did tell JN to jump off from a cliff. That has nothing to do with this. I was actually more interested in having a tech post that follows it from start to finish. Start from how it was a problem to how it gets fixed. No one asked for anything else. I didn't expect to be preached to. I thought that this would turn into a useful bit of research for a newbie or someone that has a JK. Little did I know that it would turn into a personal pissing match. If someone asks a question is it wrong to expect an answer? Or is it just a need to preach? I didn't ask for an opinion about what I did. I'm sure people that are interested in the tech side don't care either. Leave tech posts as they are tech posts. Leave the drama for your ban game.

Sunburst JK wrote:

I thought that this would turn into a useful bit of research for a newbie or someone that has a JK

and so it has

Sunburst JK wrote:

Little did I know that it would turn into a personal pissing match.

again this is the can you opened...funny how I guess its OK for you to take a pop shot at somebody/something...and then when ya get called out on it, ya whin about it being a tech forum...I'm sorry if you fall to understand this part

The only thing they might have learned is that it gets filled up with a bunch of worthless chatter that is off subject. Let's get back to the point. U joints.

Sunburst JK wrote:

The only thing they might have learned is that it gets filled up with a bunch of worthless chatter that is off subject. Let's get back to the point. U joints.

OK...

terrahawk wrote:

A u-joint is a u-joint, be it on the axle shaft or the drive shaft. JK\'s don\'t have full circle clips and they have a history of coming loose. Tack weld them, and run on...

done!

now lets get back to addressing that 2nd post




have you failed to see how the thread made the turn as it did? Yes, possibly a little help from me, but why not. But once again where did it start the turn?

anyone, anyone

listen fuckstick, up until now i have been nice.

now i won't be, you want it to be tech, i will moderate the shit out of this thread, remove everything non-tech related, but trust me when i say you wont like your posts when i'm done with them.



cliffnotes

fuckstick posts wondering whats wrong with his axle after doing something stupid

fuckstick gets butthurt when redneck tells him said extraction method was stupid

fuckstick whines about off topic shit in tech













wait, what am i saying this isnt in tech anymore

I didn't ask for a lesson in the first place. I don't remember asking how to recover. I simply put down what happened so that people can understand the situation. I made the remark due to the unnecessary comment made in the first place. I forgot about playground rules and code of conduct for out of clique members.

Wow ok this is turning into the TSJM controversy? So you would rather pull rank than understand the gravity of the situation? Not everything is about you and your opinions. Sometimes the best things said is nothing at all. Practice restraint and you might find your life to be more simple

Sunburst JK wrote:

I didn't ask for a lesson in the first place. I don't remember asking how to recover. I simply put down what happened so that people can understand the situation. I made the remark due to the unnecessary comment made in the first place. I forgot about playground rules and code of conduct for out of clique members.

i know you dident ask how to recover , but felt compelled to explain why using the "tractor winch " method is a bad idea, so others wouldent try it

and yes, you did forget about playground rules...........

Sunburst JK wrote:

Wow ok this is turning into the TSJM controversy? So you would rather pull rank than understand the gravity of the situation? Not everything is about you and your opinions. Sometimes the best things said is nothing at all. Practice restraint and you might find your life to be more simple

huh? who said anything about TSJM? and yes everything is about me, in my world everything revolves around me....the sun, the moon all of it........

Actually, the world revolves around my harem of latin cougars. Just saying....

Not being bias !!!

I do not think Redneck was trying to slam you, but yes he will preach on safty. Redneck has been wheeling for about 15 years, safty is one of his biggest stress points. He enjoys this sport but more so he hopes every one is safe.

As TxRubiRig posted Redneck has hosted and taught classes on safty as well as recovery. Here is a link to his last class... I think we might set up another one soon for some of the newbie's

http://www.myjeepforum.net/thread-graveyard-f38/tx4wdorg-recovery-101-class-june-20th-t1773.htm?highlight=recovery+101

I understand that and applaud safety! However there is a time and place for everything. If its a concern then create a new post using a quote! I guess my stride for a clean informational post has been stopped. Funny I don't see things like this on other forums. Maybe ill try again.