Johnny Cash was the Effin MAN

Gotta admit- growing up, I did not like Johnny Cash at all. I've just never been a fan of Country Western music (... we got both types of music around here- Country and Western). So I never paid any attention to old Johnny Cash. He was always just "another one of them hick country singers" to me.

But then in his old age, ol' Johnny Cash did not just continue singing the songs that made him famous into his grave. Oh no- the old man re-invented himself. Grabbed a whole new generation of fans and crossed over into areas that no one ever thought an old country singer would go. And did it in such a powerful, yet classy way, that caught everyone's attention

with that, I give you these gems!

That last album is interesting, he knew he was gonna take a dirt nap pretty soon and you can hear it in his music. He said that Reznor was a genius and that song was damn near a perfect song.

He said that this one came to him in a dream. Not sure where the video came from - wild shit.



CASH!

God's Gonna Cut You Down is one magnificent video


The Hurt video is badass.... would be cool to tell your life story like that. (just a little happier perhaps)

what a loss

My fave song is still "Sunday Morning Coming Down"

Fawkin love that song.

Awesome songs and videos RG... I see you truly understand where I'm comin from.

He was da man!

Iam pretty much like you N2, I didn't really get into him until the "Unchained" album..but after that I really went back rediscovered all the old stuff is really good to. He was one of those guys that I swore I would see in concert before he died but I waited to long

Awesome, thanks for sharing

My dad never thought much of Cash as a musician, so I was never really exposed to him that much growing up. However, he captured my attention back in '03 or so when I saw his video for Hurt, an otherwise fairly whiny and self-indulgent NIN song that carried little weight, like a mosquito's drone. All of a sudden it was meaningful and hard-hitting and more than a little touching in a sad but somehow still inspiring way. Then Walk the Line came out in '05 and was very cool. I've never become as big a fan as I think some of the fad-jumping bandwagoners might be, but I have a lot of respect for him and his work and can listen to the old stuff and enjoy it, though I still prefer stuff from American IV more than the others.

Deacon wrote:

fad-jumping bandwagoners .

Always annoys me when people make comments like that. Such a self-righteous elistist thing to say. Might as well just come right out and say: I'm too cool to follow fads

"Fads" usually occur for a reason. In music it is usually because a very talented person finally got mainstream attention and approval. It's the person's talent that created the fad. So what if all of a sudden there are tons of new fans, it was still the talent that attracted them. If you look at any huge band, you always have a set of elitest that claim they were listening to the band before it was the "in" thing to do. And then you have the fans that didn't listen until the band got success, and those fans are accused of fad jumping... Who cares? Good music, good talent. Makes no difference how someone got into the music.

N2rock wrote:

Deacon wrote:

fad-jumping bandwagoners .

Always annoys me when people make comments like that. Such a self-righteous elistist thing to say. Might as well just come right out and say: I'm too cool to follow fads

"Fads" usually occur for a reason. In music it is usually because a very talented person finally got mainstream attention and approval. It's the person's talent that created the fad. So what if all of a sudden there are tons of new fans, it was still the talent that attracted them. If you look at any huge band, you always have a set of elitest that claim they were listening to the band before it was the "in" thing to do. And then you have the fans that didn't listen until the band got success, and those fans are accused of fad jumping... Who cares? Good music, good talent. Makes no difference how someone got into the music.

go get 'em N2!!!!!

N2rock wrote:

Deacon wrote:

fad-jumping bandwagoners .

Always annoys me when people make comments like that. Such a self-righteous elistist thing to say. Might as well just come right out and say: I'm too cool to follow fads

Not really. It's one thing to actually respect and enjoy the music, and it's another to, like, completely get, like, you know, like it's really good, like you know what I mean? There's a vast difference between popularity and fad-jumping bandwaggoners, people who only have it on their iPod because their friends do. This is different than the normal wax and wane of popularity, it seems far more prevalent with people who try very hard to be part of one "scene" or another, and it seems to happen most often with something that used to be popular and is now being brought back.

Notice I did not claim to have been listening before it was cool, or any of that jazz. In fact, I said just the opposite. That's not what I'm talking about. "I liked you better before you sold out," or "Nothing is any good if other people like it," etc.

you completely missed my point...

My way of stating it was to: give credit to the artist's talent. I said "a very talented person finally got mainstream attention and approval. It's the person's talent that created the fad."

Your way of stating it was to depreciate the fan by claiming "fad-jumping bandwagoners". By stating that you give zero credit to the artist. You completely fail to admit the artist has talent, and blame the successes on people attempting to fit in. This has nothing to do with "completely getting" it. What that actually means is completely subjective. To one person "completely getting it" might mean he has a deep understanding of the interpretation of the lyrics. To another person, the lyrics might be totally meaningless, but the actual song structure means everything. And to a third person it could be the beat that pulls them in. Whatever it is, each person has their own perspective of what pulls them into the song and artist- the "connection". And to write off an artist's success, or peoples love of an artist as "fad-jumping bandwagoners" does not give credit to either party. The artist is successful BECAUSE he can touch different people in different ways.

And your pie graph - I guess that was meant as some sort of humor.

It was. All three of those things (the two quotes and the venn diagram) were from Diesel Sweeties, a web comic in which one of the characters, Indie Pete, who is the ultimate elitist indie would-be rocker.

And I totally get what you're saying. I don't think I'm communicating very well in getting across that I don't think the artist is popular due to the bandwagoners or that I begrudge the popularity or success, but rather that the bandwagoners dilute the experience since they're just there to look cool and don't actually give two shits about the music or the musician. In contrast to most of the elitists you're describing, I typically rejoice when I hear of someone obscure that I like that ends up getting a lot of mainstream success. It's not something that happens often, as I'm not really part of any scene, and it usually has happened by accident.

Deacon wrote:

Not really. It's one thing to actually respect and enjoy the music, and it's another to, like, completely get, like, you know, like it's really good, like you know what I mean?

Like...WTF?!?!?!

Not really. It's one thing to actually respect and enjoy the music, and it's another to, like, completely get, like, you know, like it's really good, like you know what I mean? There's a vast difference between popularity and fad-jumping bandwaggoners, people who only have it on their iPod because their friends do. This is different than the normal wax and wane of popularity, it seems far more prevalent with people who try very hard to be part of one "scene" or another, and it seems to happen most often with something that used to be popular and is now being brought back.

Notice I did not claim to have been listening before it was cool, or any of that jazz. In fact, I said just the opposite. That's not what I'm talking about. "I liked you better before you sold out," or "Nothing is any good if other people like it," etc.

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WTF Shut the hell up. your an idiot

Cash is and will always be bitchin'






for the record....I didn't like Obama, before it was cool.........

popcorn in hand

jeetyet wrote:

popcorn in hand

HEY I saved you a front row seat... Share some popcorn dude!!! he he

N2rock wrote:

I said "a very talented person finally got mainstream attention and approval. "

I think both of you guys are retards for thinking this 1 new album made him mainstream. He was mainstream a LONG time ago and this just dusted him off.

I don't know how this would turn out, but ask some of your kids what they think about Johnny Cash and see if they answer with "who?".

kenny that picture is fucking perfect

N2 Thank you for sharing these videos with us!

A store to bore you all!

My dad was a big Johnny Cash fan! My Dad actually went to some of his shows back in the day when artists played at the high schools! My Dad has Johnny Records, tapes and even 8 tracks! When I was real small like 5 or 6 years old I loved Johnny! When I hit about 8, 8 10 or so I hated him. Why prob. because my parents liked him! Then when I was in high school he came out with his song "Delia's Gone" they played the video on MTV like every hour!

At that time I broke out all of my Dads old records and became a Johnny Cash fan again!

Johnny Cash was a true music artist! With more talent then most of the artists now!

It is not about liking his music just seeing the talent he had! His wife june was also very talented. Her voice was harsh but true! Their daughter Rosanne Cash has a voice of her own!

I may not like her music but I see the talent she has! She is truly a great Artist!

Yes, everyone is intitled to their own opinion but you can not deny talent!

N2rock wrote:

Deacon wrote:

fad-jumping bandwagoners .

Always annoys me when people make comments like that. Such a self-righteous elistist thing to say. Might as well just come right out and say: I'm too cool to follow fads

"Fads" usually occur for a reason. In music it is usually because a very talented person finally got mainstream attention and approval. It's the person's talent that created the fad. So what if all of a sudden there are tons of new fans, it was still the talent that attracted them. If you look at any huge band, you always have a set of elitest that claim they were listening to the band before it was the "in" thing to do. And then you have the fans that didn't listen until the band got success, and those fans are accused of fad jumping... Who cares? Good music, good talent. Makes no difference how someone got into the music.

You Called?










Just kidding N2, if you noticed I didn't highlight the word usually that you prefaced that comment with.

Also I agree with your analysis of JC's later years. You can almost hear his sense of mortality knowing he is about to die. "When the Man Comes to Town" is one of my favorites mainly because it is used in the introduction to the new Dawn of the Dead, which ties resident evil as the best zombie movie of all times.

What?!?!

Zombieland- FTW!!!