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JK_JOE
Deacon
Tvernon
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roadkill
shawn
paramedac
potlickinpirate
xxXJohnny
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SBC_Tim aka thebigtman
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r_unda
Seasoned Vet
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r_unda


Number of posts : 794
Age : 40
Location : Corpus Christi, TX
Rig : 1998 Jeep Wrangler
specs. : 2.5L-4 Cyl., 33x10.5 BFG's Mud tires, 2.5 in. lift springs, 1.25 in. BL, 1 in. MML, 4.88 Gears, Front Powertrax No-Slip, Rear E-Locker, Chromoly axle shafts, SYE, Tera Low & 2Low, UCF Tummy Tuck, etc
Registration date : 2010-03-12

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roadkill wrote:
I also have a 97 4.0 block but you will need to do extensive machine work to get it back in good condition (I think) plus its missing lots of parts. your welcome to it as well if you wanna undertake a rebuild

Sweet! I might take it. It would be a good learning project to tackle even though I don’t have any idea on how to rebuild an engine Saving for an engine swap. Need your input - Page 2 Icon_scratch
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veteran08




Number of posts : 9
Registration date : 2010-07-05

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DangerMouse
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DangerMouse


Number of posts : 666
Age : 49
Location : Floresville,TX
Rig : 2005 Jeep Wrangler Willys Edition
specs. : Pro Comp lift, soft 8 wheels, 33x13.5x15 Nitto Mud Grapplers
Registration date : 2009-08-03

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This is gonna get ugly...I just know it.
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xxXJohnny
Got No Life
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xxXJohnny


Number of posts : 1052
Location : San Antonio
Rig : 2010 Challenger
specs. : Nemesis package
Registration date : 2008-06-12

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I'm opting jut to ignore him
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jkx0778
Pathetic
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jkx0778


Number of posts : 2490
Age : 46
Location : San Antonio, TX
Rig : 2008 unlimited
specs. : in progress
Registration date : 2008-01-29

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so what did Veteran08 post? it got deleted b4 i could read it Rolling Eyes
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DangerMouse
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DangerMouse


Number of posts : 666
Age : 49
Location : Floresville,TX
Rig : 2005 Jeep Wrangler Willys Edition
specs. : Pro Comp lift, soft 8 wheels, 33x13.5x15 Nitto Mud Grapplers
Registration date : 2009-08-03

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r_unda
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r_unda


Number of posts : 794
Age : 40
Location : Corpus Christi, TX
Rig : 1998 Jeep Wrangler
specs. : 2.5L-4 Cyl., 33x10.5 BFG's Mud tires, 2.5 in. lift springs, 1.25 in. BL, 1 in. MML, 4.88 Gears, Front Powertrax No-Slip, Rear E-Locker, Chromoly axle shafts, SYE, Tera Low & 2Low, UCF Tummy Tuck, etc
Registration date : 2010-03-12

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PostSubject: Re: Saving for an engine swap. Need your input   Saving for an engine swap. Need your input - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 19 Jul 2010, 12:24 pm

The company I work for is having a Fleet Auction for company workers. There some Chevy, Ford and Dodge pickups. I have to take a look what models they are but I think they are from the 90s and up. I am just thinking out loud here but if I can get a good price for one, what model engine should I look for? Something that I can swap in my jeep easy
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shawn
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Number of posts : 53
Age : 49
Location : portland, tx
Rig : 88 cherokee 4dr 4.0l auto
specs. : 4.5" lift, 35" tires, custom bumpers
Registration date : 2010-05-09

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PostSubject: Re: Saving for an engine swap. Need your input   Saving for an engine swap. Need your input - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 19 Jul 2010, 12:59 pm

if it was me i'd look for a 4bt. if i'd have done the math on my stroker build correctly i would have just opted to do the 4bt myself. 30 something mpg and more power then you could ask for sounds real good
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r_unda
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r_unda


Number of posts : 794
Age : 40
Location : Corpus Christi, TX
Rig : 1998 Jeep Wrangler
specs. : 2.5L-4 Cyl., 33x10.5 BFG's Mud tires, 2.5 in. lift springs, 1.25 in. BL, 1 in. MML, 4.88 Gears, Front Powertrax No-Slip, Rear E-Locker, Chromoly axle shafts, SYE, Tera Low & 2Low, UCF Tummy Tuck, etc
Registration date : 2010-03-12

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Ok. Just took a look at them. They have some Chevy 3500, two Ford Super Duty, a bunch of Ford F150, one Ford ranger XL, one Dodge Ram 1500 V6. Nothing with a 4bt. They all look like junk but going to go to the shop to talk to the mechanics to see what they can tell me about each truck.
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shawn
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Number of posts : 53
Age : 49
Location : portland, tx
Rig : 88 cherokee 4dr 4.0l auto
specs. : 4.5" lift, 35" tires, custom bumpers
Registration date : 2010-05-09

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any of them 4 wheel drive?
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r_unda
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r_unda


Number of posts : 794
Age : 40
Location : Corpus Christi, TX
Rig : 1998 Jeep Wrangler
specs. : 2.5L-4 Cyl., 33x10.5 BFG's Mud tires, 2.5 in. lift springs, 1.25 in. BL, 1 in. MML, 4.88 Gears, Front Powertrax No-Slip, Rear E-Locker, Chromoly axle shafts, SYE, Tera Low & 2Low, UCF Tummy Tuck, etc
Registration date : 2010-03-12

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shawn wrote:
any of them 4 wheel drive?
I don’t think so, I will have to check again but I am almost positive that they are not. The person in charge of the shop is out today. I will talk to him tomorrow; he has a list of what’s wrong with each truck.
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paramedac
Poster child
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paramedac


Number of posts : 221
Age : 58
Location : San Antonio
Rig : 1995 yj soft top half doors
specs. : 1.75 shackle lift 31x10.5x15 mud rovers,aftermarket bumpers but still the 2.5L
Registration date : 2010-03-23

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DangerMouse wrote:
What year block?

Not sure Ray but you can come look at it if you want call me David (210)219-0279
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shawn
Trail Ready
Trail Ready



Number of posts : 53
Age : 49
Location : portland, tx
Rig : 88 cherokee 4dr 4.0l auto
specs. : 4.5" lift, 35" tires, custom bumpers
Registration date : 2010-05-09

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too bad then you could just take the entire drivetrain and computer and put them in your jeep instead of mixing and matching
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roadkill
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roadkill


Number of posts : 97
Location : Sandia, TX
Rig : 06 LJ Rubi
specs. : small lift, overline fenders and 35s
Registration date : 2010-01-27

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r_unda
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r_unda


Number of posts : 794
Age : 40
Location : Corpus Christi, TX
Rig : 1998 Jeep Wrangler
specs. : 2.5L-4 Cyl., 33x10.5 BFG's Mud tires, 2.5 in. lift springs, 1.25 in. BL, 1 in. MML, 4.88 Gears, Front Powertrax No-Slip, Rear E-Locker, Chromoly axle shafts, SYE, Tera Low & 2Low, UCF Tummy Tuck, etc
Registration date : 2010-03-12

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roadkill wrote:
I'm gonna keep an eye on this one, sounds interesting

http://blogs.jpmagazine.com/6667601/editorials/easy-jeep-vw-tdi-diesel-swap/index.html

http://www.hpamotorsports.com/tdijeep.htm


This is a nice find. I wonder how much it will cost
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r_unda
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r_unda


Number of posts : 794
Age : 40
Location : Corpus Christi, TX
Rig : 1998 Jeep Wrangler
specs. : 2.5L-4 Cyl., 33x10.5 BFG's Mud tires, 2.5 in. lift springs, 1.25 in. BL, 1 in. MML, 4.88 Gears, Front Powertrax No-Slip, Rear E-Locker, Chromoly axle shafts, SYE, Tera Low & 2Low, UCF Tummy Tuck, etc
Registration date : 2010-03-12

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I talked to the shop guy. The Fords have the L6 on them so that’s no go for a swap, too big. The Chevy 3500s have the V8 350, this might work but the more I read about the swap the more I think it will not be easy. Engines were running good last time they used them.
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Tvernon
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Tvernon


Number of posts : 300
Location : Portland TX
Rig : 2007 JK
specs. : ------->
Registration date : 2010-03-22

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If i were you man I would follow closely to the VW swap. the Hp is about the same as an inline 6 and the torque is way better. Plus because its a turbo you could always put a slightly larger turbo on with almost no problems and see major gains in power. It would be simple and the engines cant be terribly expensive. You could probably find a junked TDI and yank it and use it for far cheaper than anything else. IDK man I have a jk and hell I would consider doing that for an engine swap on mine. Just saying.

Tyler
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Deacon
Got No Life
Got No Life
Deacon


Number of posts : 1482
Age : 43
Location : Helotes, TX
Rig : '06 TJ
Registration date : 2009-07-06

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Does anyone have a dyno sheet for the TDI motors? I'd be interested to see what the torque curve looks like. Is it anemic at the low end and only starts to put out power as the revs go up and the turbo gets spinning?
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potlickinpirate
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potlickinpirate


Number of posts : 898
Age : 55
Location : La Vernia Tx
Rig : 73 cj5
specs. : lined the whole thing
Registration date : 2009-09-04

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Typically the torque curve is fairly flat on a diesel and falls off---thus the need for boost. It would be interesting to see though, I will do sum huntin'.
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Deacon
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Deacon


Number of posts : 1482
Age : 43
Location : Helotes, TX
Rig : '06 TJ
Registration date : 2009-07-06

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Well this isn't exactly a Cummins, which is why I was asking. Plus, I have no idea what size fans they're using and how quickly it spools up at the expense of ultimate power versus spooling up slowly so it can cram more air in at the top end.
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JK_JOE
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Number of posts : 815
Age : 59
Location : San Antonio
Rig : R.I.P.
Registration date : 2008-05-12

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DangerMouse
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DangerMouse


Number of posts : 666
Age : 49
Location : Floresville,TX
Rig : 2005 Jeep Wrangler Willys Edition
specs. : Pro Comp lift, soft 8 wheels, 33x13.5x15 Nitto Mud Grapplers
Registration date : 2009-08-03

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JK_JOE wrote:
2007 3.0 crd, not sure if it's stock.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snZY6jzEKek&feature=related[/quote[/url]]

I know where we can find one of those!!!!!! It's parked right next to a Hemi JK Saving for an engine swap. Need your input - Page 2 Icon_twisted
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r_unda
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r_unda


Number of posts : 794
Age : 40
Location : Corpus Christi, TX
Rig : 1998 Jeep Wrangler
specs. : 2.5L-4 Cyl., 33x10.5 BFG's Mud tires, 2.5 in. lift springs, 1.25 in. BL, 1 in. MML, 4.88 Gears, Front Powertrax No-Slip, Rear E-Locker, Chromoly axle shafts, SYE, Tera Low & 2Low, UCF Tummy Tuck, etc
Registration date : 2010-03-12

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Just got an update email from the TDI project, check out the website, $2,599 for the stage 1 package.

http://www.hpamotorsport.com/TDI-YJ-AX5.htm

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DangerMouse
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Number of posts : 666
Age : 49
Location : Floresville,TX
Rig : 2005 Jeep Wrangler Willys Edition
specs. : Pro Comp lift, soft 8 wheels, 33x13.5x15 Nitto Mud Grapplers
Registration date : 2009-08-03

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Now you just gotta wait for the TJ kit to come out.
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r_unda
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r_unda


Number of posts : 794
Age : 40
Location : Corpus Christi, TX
Rig : 1998 Jeep Wrangler
specs. : 2.5L-4 Cyl., 33x10.5 BFG's Mud tires, 2.5 in. lift springs, 1.25 in. BL, 1 in. MML, 4.88 Gears, Front Powertrax No-Slip, Rear E-Locker, Chromoly axle shafts, SYE, Tera Low & 2Low, UCF Tummy Tuck, etc
Registration date : 2010-03-12

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DangerMouse wrote:
Now you just gotta wait for the TJ kit to come out.

it works for me I have the 2.5L but I don't have the money, not for that right now.
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