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Renee10 Pathetic
Number of posts : 2515 Location : San Antonio, Texas Rig : 2007 Stone White 2-Door Registration date : 2008-01-27
| Subject: Driveshaft / Control Arms Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:51 pm | |
| Help!! I have alot of vibration and probably need to get my driveshaft replaced ASAP, did not have good luck with driveshafts unlimited today. Still not sure if it is front or rear Suggestions please, I hear Tattons has some at a good price, do I need to do control arms now too? Cam bolts? | |
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lonestar rubi Got No Life
Number of posts : 1202 Age : 53 Location : san antionio Rig : 2007 JK unlimited Rubicon specs. : It's over there} Registration date : 2010-06-21
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:56 pm | |
| Well that explains why I saw you W.W. White today! Vibration how? When? | |
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jeff.lyon3 Pathetic
Number of posts : 2295 Age : 58 Location : TX Rig : 07 Unlimited Registration date : 2008-07-21
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Sat 12 Feb 2011, 12:09 am | |
| If the vibration is coming through the body of the jeep it is the driveshafts.
If it is coming through the front axle/steering wheel it is the death wobble. adjust your toe in and check your trackbar.
If it is driveshafts it is probably the rear. You don't have that much lift and the front is the same as a 4 door. The rear driveshaft is shorter on a 2 door and more prone to vibrations because of the steeper angles.
You can probably correct the rear with adjustable control arms. ( I would stay away from cam bolts.)
If you adjust the castor on the front with control arms you make the pinion angle worse. for the front you need a drive shaft with u joints or rotate the knuckles which is a major job.
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lonestar rubi Got No Life
Number of posts : 1202 Age : 53 Location : san antionio Rig : 2007 JK unlimited Rubicon specs. : It's over there} Registration date : 2010-06-21
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Sat 12 Feb 2011, 12:13 am | |
| Check wheel weights make sure you didn't lose one | |
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jkx0778 Pathetic
Number of posts : 2490 Age : 46 Location : San Antonio, TX Rig : 2008 unlimited specs. : in progress Registration date : 2008-01-29
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Sat 12 Feb 2011, 5:37 pm | |
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Renee10 Pathetic
Number of posts : 2515 Location : San Antonio, Texas Rig : 2007 Stone White 2-Door Registration date : 2008-01-27
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Sat 12 Feb 2011, 10:18 pm | |
| Thanks Richard, Jon and everyone for all the help!!
Guess I will go with Tatton's or a Tom Woods ($449.00), I need to give them a call on Monday.
One last question:
Tom woods web-site asks for a measurement, I can do that but do they make it longer for those with lifts?
Control arms are just gonna have to wait:( | |
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Renee10 Pathetic
Number of posts : 2515 Location : San Antonio, Texas Rig : 2007 Stone White 2-Door Registration date : 2008-01-27
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Sat 12 Feb 2011, 10:22 pm | |
| - lonestar rubi wrote:
- Well that explains why I saw you W.W. White today! Vibration how? When?
Major vibrations on slower speeds, its a little better at higher speeds pretty sure its driveshaft. Boot is gone and its throwing grease on my axle | |
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lonestar rubi Got No Life
Number of posts : 1202 Age : 53 Location : san antionio Rig : 2007 JK unlimited Rubicon specs. : It's over there} Registration date : 2010-06-21
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Sat 12 Feb 2011, 10:28 pm | |
| Check with Thrash drive shaft on west ave. I bet he can make a nice set up. | |
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rlogan Walks The Walk
Number of posts : 138 Location : Helotes Rig : '10 JK Unlimited specs. : Rock Krawler 2.5 Max Travel Registration date : 2010-10-13
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Sun 13 Feb 2011, 11:03 am | |
| I just ordered a tom woods front shaft, should be in any day. I have heard nothing but good things about them. Other than that, won't know until I try it. | |
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outcast Seasoned Vet
Number of posts : 605 Age : 47 Registration date : 2010-01-30
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Sun 13 Feb 2011, 8:22 pm | |
| Thrash did front and rear on the K5 recently. Was about $600, if I recall. One could search this forum for the thread.... I thought it was pricey, but was a completely new custom front and rear with new ujoints. | |
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Renee10 Pathetic
Number of posts : 2515 Location : San Antonio, Texas Rig : 2007 Stone White 2-Door Registration date : 2008-01-27
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Mon 14 Feb 2011, 8:35 pm | |
| I got one ordered from Tatton's, I need to get it on this weekend if possible. | |
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Chris Got No Life
Number of posts : 962 Age : 49 Location : San Antonio Rig : 1990 XJ Trigger specs. : 4.5in. Rubicon Express lift. JCR front winch bumper. Warn 9in. dual beam lights. PIAA 520 ATP Extreme White lights on Conn Ferr Roof Rack. Cooper STT 285/75/16 on Moab rims. Ramsey 8000 winch. 4:10 G2 gears. Aussie 30 locker, and Detroit Tru Trac locker Dana 44. Poison Syder diff covers Registration date : 2010-10-19
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Mon 14 Feb 2011, 9:04 pm | |
| Do i hear a mini install party? | |
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lonestar rubi Got No Life
Number of posts : 1202 Age : 53 Location : san antionio Rig : 2007 JK unlimited Rubicon specs. : It's over there} Registration date : 2010-06-21
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Mon 14 Feb 2011, 9:07 pm | |
| Let me know as soon as you get it. I'll get it installed that night. | |
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Renee10 Pathetic
Number of posts : 2515 Location : San Antonio, Texas Rig : 2007 Stone White 2-Door Registration date : 2008-01-27
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Mon 14 Feb 2011, 9:11 pm | |
| You guys are awesome!! I'll let everyone know when it gets here | |
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jkx0778 Pathetic
Number of posts : 2490 Age : 46 Location : San Antonio, TX Rig : 2008 unlimited specs. : in progress Registration date : 2008-01-29
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:58 am | |
| who else out there is looking for a driveshaft? front or rear?
like I said before, I am looking around for a front DS and am really looking at the coast 1350 driveshafts due to the strength and the flange that allows you to throw on a stock DS in a pinch.
I was thinking that if others were ready to replace their DS if we put together an order, it might give us a little better pricing. | |
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Dutchboy101 Pathetic
Number of posts : 2270 Age : 53 Location : San Antonio, TX Rig : Jeep specs. : 37's and stuff Registration date : 2008-04-03
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Tue 15 Feb 2011, 1:01 pm | |
| I have a front DS to install as well. Sititng in my garage, just don't have the tools to put it on.
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terrahawk Got No Life
Number of posts : 1593 Age : 55 Location : Richmond, TX Rig : 2007 Sahara dos puertas Registration date : 2008-03-30
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Tue 15 Feb 2011, 6:41 pm | |
| Renee, I can make you a good deal on a full set of adj. control arms in a few weeks. | |
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rlogan Walks The Walk
Number of posts : 138 Location : Helotes Rig : '10 JK Unlimited specs. : Rock Krawler 2.5 Max Travel Registration date : 2010-10-13
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Tue 15 Feb 2011, 6:57 pm | |
| Did I hear install party? | |
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Renee10 Pathetic
Number of posts : 2515 Location : San Antonio, Texas Rig : 2007 Stone White 2-Door Registration date : 2008-01-27
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Tue 15 Feb 2011, 9:54 pm | |
| - terrahawk wrote:
- Renee, I can make you a good deal on a full set of adj. control arms in a few weeks.
Cool, let me know how much | |
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Renee10 Pathetic
Number of posts : 2515 Location : San Antonio, Texas Rig : 2007 Stone White 2-Door Registration date : 2008-01-27
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Tue 15 Feb 2011, 9:56 pm | |
| - rlogan wrote:
- Did I hear install party?
Yes gotta get it on this weekend, next weekend is Canyons | |
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Chris Got No Life
Number of posts : 962 Age : 49 Location : San Antonio Rig : 1990 XJ Trigger specs. : 4.5in. Rubicon Express lift. JCR front winch bumper. Warn 9in. dual beam lights. PIAA 520 ATP Extreme White lights on Conn Ferr Roof Rack. Cooper STT 285/75/16 on Moab rims. Ramsey 8000 winch. 4:10 G2 gears. Aussie 30 locker, and Detroit Tru Trac locker Dana 44. Poison Syder diff covers Registration date : 2010-10-19
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:28 pm | |
| How bout Sunday, cause I'll be fishing Saturday. | |
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outcast Seasoned Vet
Number of posts : 605 Age : 47 Registration date : 2010-01-30
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Wed 16 Feb 2011, 8:06 pm | |
| - Dutchboy101 wrote:
- I have a front DS to install as well. Sititng in my garage, just don't have the tools to put it on.
Are the jeep DS that much more than my blazer? It took, umm, two wrenches to do both the front and rear DS on the blazer.... I was furious that I took the jeep in and paid them $$ to do it, once I found out how bloody easy it was by myself on the blazer. | |
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Renee10 Pathetic
Number of posts : 2515 Location : San Antonio, Texas Rig : 2007 Stone White 2-Door Registration date : 2008-01-27
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Wed 16 Feb 2011, 8:18 pm | |
| I am open Sat or Sunday after church either works for me, I think Sascha needs his installed too, and Jon has opened up his house for us. Yall let me know what day works better. Thanks | |
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lonestar rubi Got No Life
Number of posts : 1202 Age : 53 Location : san antionio Rig : 2007 JK unlimited Rubicon specs. : It's over there} Registration date : 2010-06-21
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Wed 16 Feb 2011, 9:26 pm | |
| I cancelled my fishing trip so what ever works for me. | |
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jkx0778 Pathetic
Number of posts : 2490 Age : 46 Location : San Antonio, TX Rig : 2008 unlimited specs. : in progress Registration date : 2008-01-29
| Subject: Re: Driveshaft / Control Arms Thu 17 Feb 2011, 12:45 pm | |
| - matinau wrote:
- Dutchboy101 wrote:
- I have a front DS to install as well. Sititng in my garage, just don't have the tools to put it on.
Are the jeep DS that much more than my blazer? It took, umm, two wrenches to do both the front and rear DS on the blazer.... I was furious that I took the jeep in and paid them $$ to do it, once I found out how bloody easy it was by myself on the blazer. the answer is... not really. just time consuming. The JKs have a flanges on both ends of the rear Rzeppa style DS in the rear. So there is a flange on the diff and tcase in the rear. These have to be changed out to yokes for the Tatton's DS. That is the hard part. You have to be careful with the torque specs on the pinion. IIRC max torque should be 180 lb/ft as the crush sleeve in the diff should be around 200 lb/ft (check the instructions though. I might be a off in my #s). Once the yokes are on, it should be easy from there. Just 4 u-botls. The front is a little easier since there is only a flange on the tcase end and a standard u-bolt on the diff. BUT once you change out to a double cardan joint, the diff should be at the same angle as the DS. I did not have the correct rear degree wedges in my 84 blazer and I kept busting ujoints... sucks when your on the hwy and hear a loud pop and then lots of crazy loud banging as the DS whips around until it destroys itself completely The rear is easy with adj control arms. The front is trickier because now you have to contend with steering geometry. Rotating the pinion up to correct the DS angle lessens the caster and JKs like plenty of positive caster. IIRC many run about 6* of positive caster for the "best" steering feel. just my $0.02 | |
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